Carl Gustav Jung wrote prolifically on the phenomena of psychological transference in the context of the patient and therapist relationship. His book, "The Psychology of the Transference", outlines the various stages of this process as it reflects the spiritual alchemy of the Rennaisance through a series of eleven 14th Century northern European alchemical woodblock prints.
I am curious if any one here is a practicing psychotherapist with firsthand experience of this transference phenomena and how they use that process to further the diagnosis and treatment of their patients.
I am curious if any one here is a practicing psychotherapist with firsthand experience of this transference phenomena and how they use that process to further the diagnosis and treatment of their patients.
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Re: projection and the transference phenomena
Sat, July 8, 2006 - 8:09 PMpracticing psychotherapist here, and of course, us the transference material to read the deeper fields surrounding the client, conscious and uncons.
have not touched on Jung's "the Psychology of the Transference" specifically but am very comfortable with Jung's work
let me ask you first Sherpa, which direction should I comment on, being as transference is such a wide feature...
what are you particularly interested in? just give me an idea of which direction to start with...:+)
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Re: projection and the transference phenomena
Sat, July 8, 2006 - 9:58 PMThanks; yes, transference is very wide topic. To be more specific i am interested in any experiences you are at liberty to share, without betraying professional or personal ethics, regarding the projection of repressed and powerful negative emotions such as what Jung might have called The Shadow archetype or the Scapegoat complex.
In other words, have you been with patients who have made you "the devil" in their mind as a way for these repressions to find eventual release and potential healing or integration? And if so, I am curious to know of any difficulties you and/or your patient may have encountered during such a transference event as well as any successes in this process.
As for myself, I am not a professional psychotherapist. My field is as a theatre director working several decades with dancers and actors. I have also held a private astrological practice since 1980 where I offer psychological profiles but no treatment. And so my inquiry is not mere curiosity but of a deeper nature towards research and application.
I know I am asking a lot here.
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Re: projection and the transference phenomena
Sun, July 9, 2006 - 3:30 PMwell, can't say i've constellated the "d-evil" projection per se...
but I can say I've constellated a "negative mother" transference lately...sometimes "negative authority" and such...mostly I constellate positive transferences..tsk tsk :+) just kidding
my particular style is to develop the transference until it becomes very clear that it has taken place. Once it's palpable in the relationship then I begin to talk openly with my client about it. I enter into partnership with them around it, where the client is able to acknowledge the dynamic and we talk about the benefits of having "it" in our relationship. I educate about the potential for a corrective positive experience with the issue. I take a look, or take a pulse as to how comfortable the client was with the level of relational contact around the issue, note any imagery emerging into my consciousness, any tendency on the client's part to go unconscious around it, pulls, tendencies, etc...I assess the transference
then I back off and let it go, I let it submerge again and then I observe it and hold it on my own. In time the client will bring it forward through behavior or other related issues. Often they'll tell stories of other relationships that mirror the transference we are nurturing, etc.
I guess that I take care to minimize difficulties with the material by trying not to make it conscious too soon, by respecting the client's need and ability to work with the material, by considering that it's not the only piece of work in our relationship, by trusting the client's tension around it
the hardest part is where the particular transference is close to home for me, or where it requires a level of intimacy that is challenging. Sometimes I'm fearful and I note that it's part of the countertransference, that the client is concerned about going there again, they don't want to let me down, don't know how to handle having negative feelings towards me without fearing repercussion or loss of relationship. If i'm having a particularly astute day I may catch it even though repressed and work to help the client be comfortable with being totally honest with me rather than trying to protect me against their rage, their hostility, their distrust, their fearful reactions, etc.
I find the slippery nature of the beast particularly challenging. Client's are comfortable when they tell you about something, but sometimes, when there's resistance to the material, if you mirror back what they've just said to you, they take it back...it's ok when they name it but if I name it, then it's not ok...that tells me that the transference is connected to deeper layers of shame or negative self recrimination and then I negotiate with the client around that piece of material. That is, I name it for them and ask about the challenge, letting them lead the way rather than being attached to confrontation where there is intense resistance, etc
this can go on and on Sherpa, but how's that for starters, feel free to be specific again and i will try to deepen what you're inquiring about...
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Re: projection and the transference phenomena
Sun, July 9, 2006 - 4:05 PMrebecca,
your generous and through response is deeply appreciated.
i especially found your statement -- "I take care to minimize difficulties with the material by trying not to make it conscious too soon, by respecting the client's need and ability to work with the material, by considering that it's not the only piece of work in our relationship, by trusting the client's tension around it " -- to be immediately useful and helpful in the context of my own work with unearthing charged negative and positive complexes within myself and in others.
This is enough for me to work with for awhile. Again, my gratitude for your sharing with me these points of empathy, sensitivity and knowledge.
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Re: projection and the transference phenomena
Sun, July 9, 2006 - 6:18 PMsherpa,
well it does my heart good to hear that you found this helpful and that you found something to work with that resonates with what you were looking for
cool...:+)
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Re: projection and the transference phenomena
Tue, July 11, 2006 - 8:07 AMjust quickly, i work with male survivors of sexual abuse and there is a lot of transference with this client group. they have been hurt so much by others, how do they know that i (we at the agency) are not also going to hurt them.
building trust takes a long time with many of these clients. they test and they test - often not knowing that they are doing it - to see if we will end up being like everyone else and hurt or disappoint them.
not judging them and being unconditionally accepting is crucial. as well, at times, bringing things up and talking about it directly, in a non-accusatory way, can be helpful when appropriate.
setting boundaries is essential so they know where they stand with you and understand that you have no hidden agenda.
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Re: projection and the transference phenomena
Wed, August 23, 2006 - 10:00 AMPracticing therapist here- the Transference phenomena proposed by Jung doesn't usually become a particularly significant aspect of therapy unless you engage the client in an inappropriate manner.
Jung's ideas about dreamwork are overrated as well. -
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Re: projection and the transference phenomena
Sat, April 7, 2007 - 11:22 AMThat's your opinion. Transference, whether within therapy or everyday relationships, happens. Making it a significant aspect of therapy is a matter of technique, approach, and theory. Perhaps there are aspects of cognitive therapy that others would consider inappropriate to focus on. Neither is necessarily so. -
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The Gift of Transference
Mon, September 3, 2007 - 1:34 PM"This is the gift of transference: when the client expects from me what she learned to expect from her mother, then I have the opportunity to respond in the way that she needs but doesn't expect, the way that her mother could not. It's a way to honor that mother, I think, who would wish happiness for her daughter. The woman in front of me, given her experience of my understanding, will eventually come to expect responsiveness rather than neglect in her relationships."
--Marcia Hill, "Diary of a Country Therapist" (Haworth 2004) Highly recommended.
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